by Stephen Lacey
August 03, 2017

By now, you've probably heard a lot about the debate over whether America can get all of its energy from renewables. If you've followed it closely, you might be sick of the heated back and forth. Who should you trust?

We wanted to cut through the noise and provide as much context as possible to our audience. In recent weeks, we produced two episodes of the Interchange podcast featuring Mark Jacobson and Christopher Clack, the two researchers at the center of the dispute.

In this extended transcript, we provide the text of both...