The academic world is full of debate about how expensive or cheap renewables are compared to fossil fuels. But do those debates actually match what’s happening on the ground?

In this week’s podcast, we’ll talk with Amory Lovins, the founder and chief scientist at the Rocky Mountain Institute, about the difference between the market reality of renewables and the economic debate about their cost.

In the second part of the show, we will discuss a very important legal decision upholding FERC’s grid planning rule. We’ll also chat about a booming application in the non-residential solar market: carports.

(Don't forget to sign up for our live show in New York City on September 22! And be sure to get your pass to Soft Grid, where we'll discuss security issues.)

This podcast is sponsored by eGauge Systems, a manufacturer of next-generation energy meters for solar generation and building demand, submetering, performance contracts, LEED projects and net-zero buildings.

The Energy Gang is produced by The show features weekly discussion between energy futurist Jigar Shah, energy policy expert Katherine Hamilton and Greentech Media Editor Stephen Lacey.