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Michael Kanellos | March 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM 4 Comments

Is China Going Green or Not?

China. The world can cut down carbon emissions in a big way with its cooperation. Will it happen?

Yes, says Steve Chadima, vice president of external affairs with Suntech Power Holdings, the large Chinese solar module maker. Suntech right now is bidding on a 10 megawatt solar field being supported by the Chinese government, he said during a presentation at the ThinkGreen conference sponsored by ThinkEquity in San Francisco this week.

“We expect hundreds if not thousands of megawatts to follow,” he said. The U.S. market will likely explode next year and China will follow after that, he predicted.

Phil Adams, president of WorldEnergy, which has created a carbon and electricity auction system, agrees. The government stays in power when it has the cooperation of the people. If things go bad—really bad—the legitimacy to rule is questioned. (Dynasties fell for the same reasons.) And China has suffered a large increase in protests over environmental issues. The government will need to clean up to maintain power, he argues.

But the signs of actual, constructive action are limited, says Venrock’s Matthew Trevithick. Ten megawatts? Not going to set the world on fire. A few years ago, He was in China to check out some green technologies being prepped for the Olympics. The trip was canceled.

Giving up the economic juggernaut for a better, cleaner environment could be a tough sell, he added.

From my own experiences and interviews in China, I am in the middle. Environmental issues have cropped up. China sees a way to make huge amounts of money from green technologies. The country also doesn’t want to be beholden to imports of oil.

But if going green would hamper growth, even average Chinese citizens will probably balk. The changes in lifestyle that have occurred due to the rising economy will be too big to swallow. One person I interviewed, Liu Bo, who ran a Linux company, spent the first 30 minutes of our talk telling me about his experiences working 15 to 20 hours a day on a collective farm.

“The two years of hardship taught me to face difficulties,” he said. “What could be worse?”

Another person, who runs PR for a large U.S. company, told me how his family was the first he knew to ever get a TV. It was 1979, and they bought a six-inch black-and-white TV. His mom was worried the police would arrest them. Now he lives in luxury.

Comments [4]

  • Jason P 03/26/09 4:58 PM

    In response to “the sun rises,” China is already working with the US to push alternative energies.  Not just that, they are working on energy efficiency partnerships, which have great potential to reduce pollution and greenhouse gas emissions.  The Chinese province Jiangsu has an energy efficiency partnership with California which has resulted in significant GHG reductions in the province.  A forum was also just held in Beijing called “Developing Effective Mechanisms for Energy Efficiency Implementation.”  It was a top level exchange of ideas between Chinese government officials, environmental NGOs, and California.  These programs, in addition to many other energy saving and pollution reduction programs, were coordinated by NRDC.  Check out this blog on environmental law in China run by NRDC that highlights alot of progress China has made in recent years. 
    http://www.greenlaw.org.cn/enblog/

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  • the sun rises 03/26/09 12:34 PM

    Is economic development and going green mutually exclusive? In addition to pollution and being free of the political insecurities of relying on fossil fuels, the water shortages in China should lead China to develop wind and solar power—they don’t use water after the equipment is made, while coal and nuclear both use enormous amounts of water in electricity generation. I am waiting for China and the US to announce a joint initiative to push alternative energies, hopefully sooner rather than later. Before the the climate meetings at the end of the year. We’ll see.

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  • thomas 03/26/09 2:27 PM

    “It was 1979, and they bought a six-inch black-and-white TV. His mom was worried the police would arrest them. Now he lives in luxury.”


    I would suggest readers beware of reports on China. Too much has been skewed and distorted. They need to ask themselves how real such comments can be.

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  • Peter A 03/26/09 10:02 AM

    A ten megawatt solar plant is a drop in the bucket when you consider that China is turning up one coal fired plant per week and has over 200 under construction.

    My hunch is that they won’t do anything that even remotely threats economic development. The Chinese care far more about jobs than the environment (or politics) at this point. Their M.O. is still very much along the lines of “grow first, clean later”.

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