The need for standards when measuring energy consumption in micro networks is rising. However, there are no clear solutions today. That was the message from today's first panel at the the Green:Net 09 conference in San Francisco. How do we measure the footprint of a TV set, the laundry machine or the lights in the living room in a standardized way? Panel members pointed out the difficulty of getting the numbers right. Who makes the largest footprint in the conference hall, the people on the stage with the lights aimed at them or the audience just watching? And how do we split the energy footprint between us? Raffi Krikorian, Co-Founder of WattzOn, asked. These kinds of questions must be answered and standardized was the message. "Standards really don't exist. There are commercial players that want's their methods to be the standards," said Jeremy Jaech, CEO of Verdiem Corporation. "The only standard is the ZigBee protocol. Google has announced a proposal for standards. There's a lot work to be done," claimed Jonathan Gay, Founder of Greenbox Technology. (Several people disagree with this claim and put forth their own.) "A power management protocol that is supported by a group of devices would be a great thing to see standardization around," said Jeremy Jaech. "A lot of work has been done by the international community, why reinvent it?" asked Richard Barber, CTO of CarbonFlow. Members of the panel were Jeremy Jaech, CEO, Verdiem Corporation, Jonathan Gay, Founder, Greenbox Technology, Alex Wissner-Gross, Co-Founder and CTO, CO2Stats, Richard Barber CTO, CarbonFlow and Raffi Krikorian Co-Founder, WattzOn. The moderator was Celeste LeCompte, Special Projects Editor, the GigaOM Network.