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Fiat and Chrysler Pull Back on Electric Cars; Bad News for A123 Systems?

Fiat, the new owners of Chrysler, has apparently pushed back the effort to release an electric car, according to Reuters. Fiat has scrapped the Dodge Circuit, a two-seater electric sports car, as well as a plan to make a fleet of 220 electric and hybrid cars. The Department of Energy gave the company $70 million in grants in August to develop that fleet. Not sure if we get the money back.

The Envi electric car group has been absorbed into the regular car making group, Reuters said.

That could be bad news for battery-maker A123 Systems. A123 lost the deal to supply batteries to General Motors for the Volt earlier this year (although the two companies publicly vowed to remain friends). The Chrysler deal in April helped A123 rebound. The battery maker subsequently pulled off a successful IPO.

Will the changes at Fiat/Chrysler hurt? It's hard to say, but it's not great news. On one hand, Fiat and Chrysler still plan to come out with electric cars. Lou Rhodes, who headed up Envi, will head up electric car development for Fiat and Chrysler.

On the other hand, it sounds like electric cars are going to come out of the combined company later and at a slower pace. Chrysler earlier said it wanted to have an electric car out by 2010. On Friday, Fiat CEO Sergio "Marchionne told reporters and analysts electric cars would only represent "one to two percent" of Chrysler's sales by 2014, equivalent to less than 60,000 vehicles," Reuters wrote. The company is considering a delivery van in the U.S. Will they put some out in 2010 or will it be later? Hopefully more clarity comes next week.

"Until the [battery] storage gets resolved, I think electric vehicles are going to struggle," Marchionne was quoted as saying.

Comments [4]

  • Peter A 11/8/09 11:46 PM

    Congratulations to Mr. Marchionne for being a (rare) pragmatist.

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  • MH 11/9/09 1:31 PM

    This may actually be good news for A123. I don’t think they would have been able to supply the necessary quantity of cells in the near term which is one of the reasons they didn’t get the GM Volt deal. Following that logic, they would have eventually lost the Chrysler/ENVI deal as well. This delay gives them a chance to get their cell manufacturing set up and running so that they can support 60,000 vehicles or more per year.

    To give you an idea of the magnitude of the problem, consider that the GM Volt uses a 16kW-h battery system. To deliver batteries for 60,000 cars/year, each using a 16kilowatt-hr battery requires a battery manufacturing capacity of 960megawatt-hrs/year. According to the A123 prospectus, they currently have a total capacity of 169.3megawatt-hrs/year including the batteries they manufacture for power tools which is the majority of their business today. Of course they are moving rapidly to expand production using the money from their recent IPO as well as stimulus money but it can’t happen overnight and even one deal on a vehicle that is selling at 60,000 units/year requires nearly a six-fold increase in their manufacturing capacity.

    Another sanity check: Toyota builds about 300,000 Prius cars per year. They use a much small 1.3kW-h Ni-MH battery but this still represents 390megawatt-hrs/year of battery capacity from their primary battery supplier which is Panasonic.

    Obviously A123 and the other cell manufacturer and battery manufacturers are going to have to expand substantially in order for the EV market (which includes hybrids, battery cars, and plug-in hybrids) to be successful. There are other issues besides manufacturing capacity, mainly cost per kW-hr, that are also important. So, not only do the battery manufacturers have to ramp up capacity, they have to bring down prices.

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  • Steve Pluvia 11/9/09 5:26 PM

    Peter, you use big words for someone obviously iq deficient.  Care to explain why a guy who runs the worst EU auto mfgr, then buys the worst U.S auto maker should be congratulated?  Ummm because he hasn’t spent a dime on next gen fuel vehicles—and that’s a smart thing eh?

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