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Eric Wesoff | May 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM 14 Comments

Bloomors: Bloom Energy Rumors

After more than seven years and more than $200 million of VC funding, Bloom Energy remains steadfastly non-communicative about its technology, product and business plan. The company ostensibly builds 5-kilowatt SOFCs (Solid Oxide Fuel Cells) or “Bloom Boxes” that can power a residence or business. The fuel cells are powered by methanol or ethanol which, when I last checked, was still a hydrocarbon product, albeit producing less emissions than, for example, a diesel generator.

It is said to be venture firm KPCB’s first greentech investment.

Every few weeks I receive a semi-credible tidbit about the company, which, in an attempt at journalistic integrity, I try to verify with the marketing folks at Bloom. This has turned into a sort of ritualized dance between myself and Stu Aaron, Bloom’s VP of Marketing and Product Development.

Over the last few months I’ve asked Stu about:

  • News of an alleged $150 million dollar funding round and $1.45 billion valuation
  • Rumors of an enormous government contract and a multi-million dollar order backlog from Coca-Cola and FedEx
  • Why they’re using Advanced Equities to help them raise their next round
  • The questionable fund-raising tactics used by one of their investors, Northgate Capital

I send a polite email with an inquiry and Mr. Aaron returns a polite, slightly weary and bemused response, saying, “No comment.” So, none of the above scuttlebutt is either confirmed or denied by Bloom.

I have even gone so far to inflict stress positions upon the Bloom Energy process engineers in my yoga class at Planet Granite in Sunnyvale. But these folks are well trained and have not divulged their fuel-cell intelligence.

Daniel Englander, one of our intrepid analysts found this entry on the California Solar Initiative website – clearly indicating a 25-kilowatt grid-tied fuel-cell installation somewhere in California:

  • Bloom Energy Corp
  • INV-500
  • 25-kilowatt 480 Vac Three Phase Utility-Interactive Inverter for Fuel Cell
  • 25kW
  • 93.5%
  • Added 3/31/09

And I was able to find this test data on the inverter being used in this installation which simply characterizes a 25-kilowatt DC-to-AC inverter.

So, armed with some facts for a change, I asked Stu Aaron at Bloom to give me some background on the installation and in this instance, he surprisingly responsed, “No comment.”   We’ll keep digging and hopefully Stu will weaken one of these days.

More fun facts:

According to Linked-In, Bloom has at least 150 employees.

And for some industry background, here’s a list of the profitable fuel-cell firms:

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Comments [14]

  • Cleanthinking.de 05/31/09 6:03 AM

    The list with the profitable fuel-cell firms is funny - but I think its neither right nor fair to like this about Bloom Energy - I am sure, their will be better information in future!

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  • john 05/31/09 4:18 PM

    Did you hear the rumor about the 100kW demo stack and possible manufacturing in Tennessee? Would love to hear any confirmations/denials about that. Also, aren’t the Bloom Boxes meant to run off the existing NG grid primarily?

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  • john 05/31/09 4:55 PM

    Thanks for this. Keep applying those stress positions! Any info on the recent release regarding the 100kW demo and potential manufacturing in Tennessee (Gore’s home state)? Also, althought SOFCs consume most hydrocarbons, isn’t the “Bloom Box” primary target market Natural Gas applications that are NG grid/pipeline tied, tanked, etc?

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  • Dean 06/1/09 11:16 AM

    If Advanced Equities is raising them money, just call them up and ask for the PPM, this will disclosure 1.) valuation 2.) contracts w/ Google, Government etc… and 3.) Cost to build Bloom Box. There is s reason John Doerr from KPCB calls Bloom Energy the “Green Google”

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  • Eric Wesoff 06/1/09 4:30 PM

    Dean,
    AE would not disclose that info.  AE probably isn’t privy to that info.
    And Doerr also said that the Segway was going to change transportation as we know it and alter the structure of cities.
    Eric

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      • Julius Roye 06/2/09 2:28 AM

        so true Eric

  • bg 06/2/09 10:54 AM

    not to be nitpicky, but in an effort for accuracy, where you list the specs. of the installation, it currently reads “25,000kW”.  Should be either 25,000W or 25kW.

    Thanks for the good chuckle.

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      • Eric Wesoff 06/2/09 12:38 PM

        BG - That’s not nitpicky.  Thanks for spotting it.  I’ll correct in a short while.

  • Dennis 06/2/09 11:08 PM

    What do you want to know about Bloom. just ask me

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  • Jeff 06/19/09 8:30 AM

    John Doer also said Presto was going to be the next thing. Neither AE or John Doer have credibility. They would say anything to get your money. That said I do think Bloom Energy will be huge and will be “out” soon.

    Being the marketing VP for Bloom must be the easiest job. Website is useless and zero public info being released

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  • Laughing 07/7/09 12:03 PM

    <<Why they’re using Advanced Equities to help them raise their next round>>

    That is easy.  AE can find investors willing to invest at stupid terms.

    It’s like the old adage.  If you are at the poker table and don’t know who the sucker is, it’s you.

    Anybody stupid enough to invest in a company at $1.45 billion that has no revenue, let alone profit deserves to be hosed.

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  • Fuel cell analyst 07/7/09 6:23 PM

    The last time I checked Smart Fuel Cell or efoy in Germany was profitable.
    Any others?

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  • KGB 07/8/09 10:54 AM

    Rumors of a test site at EPB in Tennessee are true as is their latest contract with Cisco…

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